The annual ASPR Conference is like a family reunion of sorts. Staff physician recruiters and key industry people alike look forward to attending each year and networking with old friends and colleagues. This year’s conference in Orlando was not only the biggest yet—with 91 exhibitors and 657 attendees!—it was also the end of an era.
The Association of Staff Physician Recruiters has become the Association for Advancing Physician and Provider Recruitment, or AAPPR. Bittersweet as closing the door on ASPR may be for some of us old-timers, we are also looking forward to seeing what new doors will open with AAPPR. For a better understanding of this pivot in a new direction for the association, we interviewed AAPPR CEO Carey Goryl.
Tell me about your history in recruitment, both with ASPR and with your new role as CEO of AAPPR.
Ironically enough, I have not been in a recruitment role in the past. For the first time, the organization reached outside of the industry to look for someone to fill the role from a new perspective. My expertise is helping organizations move forward. I’m certified in Association Management, and my goal is to propel this organization and help it transform. I am here to take their vision and make it real.
Tell me a little more about being a member of ASPR and what that means for careers in physician recruitment.
Most of the members fell into their positions. Healthcare organizations see a different skill set in individuals and say, “You would make a good recruiter.” There is no defined career map in physician recruiting. As a result, new recruiters need their own training and onboarding, and locums is a very complicated process.
The FASPR certification requires three exams. It is a recognition that you can do your job as a physician recruiter—and do it well! This is a members’ recognition, with evidence to demonstrate that they understand and know their role. Despite the association name change, we will continue to refer to the credential as FASPR.
Please tell me about the new AAPPR release. How do you see the meetings looking in the future?
There were many drivers to change the name. Even though this organization has always been inclusive of advanced practice, it wasn’t evident, and the board decided to clarify that it supports more than just recruitment for physicians—they wanted to differentiate that they also support providers. This change isn’t about just the name; it’s about several factors:
- Viewing our members as experts in their field and leaning on them as internal experts
- Providing tools and resources that are useful to all members now and in the future
- Creating a member community that is solid, which the association strives to make easy and engaging
- Being the voice of a profession as evidenced in the redesigned website (now https://www.aappr.org/) and recreated flagship magazine ROAR (formerly known as JASPR), standing for Recruitment, Onboarding, And Retention.
How many Regional Conferences to you try to attend each year? Which do you typically attend?
I attend as many regional conferences as I possibly can. There are 14 different regional groups registered with AAPPR. All are listed on the website, including the group from Canada. My goal is to build collaboration between the regions, instead of having everyone siloed.
What is a common comment or concern you’ve heard about in the past regarding locums or using locums in the recruiters’ hospitals?
The locums industry is definitely different. However, through our benchmarking survey and the organization monitoring trends closely, we have found:
- Locums usage has nearly doubled in the past two years among members
- This usage is expected to grow
- Locums are commonly used to assist with hospitalist shortages
- HCOs that directly use three or more agencies essentially double their workload
We want to help members look at processes with agencies, locums credentialing, and billing. We’ve found that the speed and stress can lead to high risks and error rates. Anecdotally, vendor management systems seem to be piquing members interest, though we have no hard data to support this.
Are there any trends or major shifts you’ve seen in the industry over the years?
The shortage isn’t going away. We must care and provide for our communities. As a profession, we need to put more attention into this growing trend.
How can exhibiting at this conference benefit your attendees’ future?
It is so important to exhibit at these meetings. We maintain that the conference delivers a balanced group of exhibitors, so that the member can gain access to the right tools and resources. We do think that exhibitors will continue to grow, as our membership grows. I’d love to see this grow into a conference that gains attention at the executive level of healthcare organizations as well.